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I would agree, and I do not advocate their uses lightly when it regards pets. In my opinion, the entire outdoor environment has too many hazards for cats, but there will always be owners who allow them outdoors, or neighbors who will take action with "protecting" their gardens and flowers. I agree that people need to be responsible in what they use around their homes in regard to pet safety. Unfortunately, some people don't.

I occasionally use red pepper around door crevices (outside) to deter ants, but I do make sure it is a very thin line, and my neighbor cats have never given indication they wanted to ingest it :wink: . Even if they did, I would take full responsibiity if any harm came to them.
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E's wrote:I guess my language was a bit harsh - I don't object to use of substances which deter through scent/taste and are otherwise harmless to animals and the environment. But I am from San Antonio, Texas - talk of using the caustic content of jalapeno or chili peppers in this way touchs a very sensitive nerve: I could (but won't) tell some real horror stories on the subject. All I'm asking is that people THINK - even do a little research - before suggesting often-dangerous remedies from a less kind and gentle past.
That was a touch harsh, as it stands I would never recommend using raw peppers of any sort, dried pepper mixed in with the earth is a good alternative to deter all kinds of animals. Its generally strong smell is enough to drive most animals off, included rabbits and other small mammals. I also checked, the combo that my mother found worked best was a chili peppers and garlic in a 1:1 ratio. Spread lightly around plants it does work, and more importantly isn't outright toxic.

I also personally resent being called a meanspirited halfwit, as well as the implicatin that my mother, who owns a cat, is as well. I quite frankly think that an apology is in order for such a ludacris and offensive comment.

I will however assure that I would never encourage anything that harms a cat, the cats that I have dealt with avoided the gardens very quickly, although continued to come by the house. I find that a blend of more strongly scented spices works very well, if you don't wan to use high scoville spices garlic is also good since it is such a strong scent.

Another option that you may want to go with is a vinegar solution sprayed lightly onto the plants themselves. Vinegar, in my cat at least, is avoided. As a real plus it is non-toxic, not strong in way, and if absorbed into the ground gets diluted to the point of nonexistance with the first rain fall. Even without rain vinegar is such a mild acid solution to start with no harm will be done. It does require constant up keep however.

The other option to prevent roving cats, and other animals, from wandering into your yard is to keep them out entirely. This typically involves some kind of geodesic dome enclosing your property. It may at some point also involve an airlock. ;)
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I would caution the use of garlic and garlic cloves, however, since garlic (and onion) in most any form is toxic to cats, and can cause fatal heinz body anemia. Assuming you meant underground, but please don't use it top-ground.
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Traci wrote:I would caution the use of garlic and garlic cloves, however, since garlic (and onion) in most any form is toxic to cats, and can cause fatal heinz body anemia. Assuming you meant underground, but please don't use it top-ground.
Oh no, never used any surface material. Its always buried a good 6 inches down. Surface material, if it was used, was generally the ground chili pepper I knew about onion, but garlic good one to know. I'll have to mention that to my mum so she stops using it just in case.

Anyhoo, ultimately the best way to keep cats away is not give them a reason not to come by. With a garden thats tough, but I found just giving an unknown cat a good shout if caught it doing its business where he wasn't supposed to tends to keep them off after a few goes.
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My grandmother used to allow the cats their business in her vegetable gardens, she was sure it was good fertilizer and I'm still around to tell the story, so the vegies must have been ok :wink:
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Traci wrote:My grandmother used to allow the cats their business in her vegetable gardens, she was sure it was good fertilizer and I'm still around to tell the story, so the vegies must have been ok :wink:
I don't doubt it, my mum's problem was that they would dig up her carefully planted vegetables and seeds. The one that drove her nuts was the tulip bulbs though.

Of course that was all in our fenced in backyard so it was our neighbours danged cat climbing our fence. Our other neighbours didn't this problem, but attribute that to them owning a dog that spent a fair amount of time in the yard. Not something I would recommend to keep cats out BTW.
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I once had a cat who actually liked the vinegar I placed in a dish on the table in amongst the houseplants I (tried) to grow...houseplants and me to do not mix well...funny thing with my degree in Horticulture...hahaha
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