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Re: New Here...desperate for some advice about my sick kitte

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Jssilynn, yes, globulins and other enzymes may be significantly out of range if FIP were a factor to consider. The CBC may or may not have shown evidence of bacterial infection, but because it didn't, then the next step is to evaluate other body/organ functions, including blood and urine. Your vet can examine Preston's mouth more closely to determine if teething may be causing a fever, she can also examine his lymph nodes for potential sources of infection, and perform a urinalysis in the event that bacterial infection may have entered the urinary tract. Other rule outs would be toxins in the home that he may have gotten into (plants, human medicines, rancid food or toxic foods like chocolate, human foods, etc, or rodenticides, chemicals, etc) so you want to investigate the home for any signs he could have gotten into something. The important thing at this point is regulating his temperature, and combine that with bloodwork, you may need to get a new blood profile done again within a day or so to monitor, or at least another CBC to detect newly developing infection.

The Baytril may help treat a urinary tract infection, but a urinalysis should be done regardless so that your vet can include it in her list of rule-outs, this is a prudent approach when looking for sources of infection and fever activity.
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Well, I can't give advice because I don't know your kitten and can't seen what's going on. Sometimes , whatever it is becomes resistant to an antibiotic, even a strong one, so it's kind of ineffectual. What I did mention, I mentioned because they work so well in conjunction with whatever a vet could prescribe.And sometimes that extra boost can make a big difference.
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thyme wrote:Well, I can't give advice because I don't know your kitten and can't seen what's going on. Sometimes , whatever it is becomes resistant to an antibiotic, even a strong one, so it's kind of ineffectual. What I did mention, I mentioned because they work so well in conjunction with whatever a vet could prescribe.And sometimes that extra boost can make a big difference.
That is primarily anecdotal, and depends on the product, the condition diagnosed, the vet's knowledge of the product, and for what purpose it is expected or factually known to treat. Many holistic and homeopathic vets "prescribe" these products blindly, telling themselves and the pet owner even if it doesn't work, it won't cause any harm. Then, if it doesn't work, the holistic/homeopath tells the pet owner that the correct dose or formulation wasn't right, and they prescribe even more, or a combination thereof, and continue to do so until the pet worsens or dies, foregoing all rational diagnostics and testing to get to the real source of the illness. If a "remedy" appears to work, the vet then claims a miraculous cure and propogates the "success" to others, never proving the product worked. This is a dangerous and idiotic approach to medicine and is not one a pet owner should adhere to. An equal number of these vets will openly admit they know virtually little about the products they "prescribe" and extrapolate them from human literature or through "training courses" or through other holistic/homeopathics who are essentially doing the same thing...experiementing and preying on the client's emotions and pocketbooks, not to mention the expense of the pet's health and safety.

A large majority of the "testimonies" of holistic/homeopathy remedies is simply tincture of time, meaning the condition naturally resolved on it's own, or because it was originally treated with conventional medicine before the "remedies" were applied.
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I'm kind of puzzled? Like, you said, " Then, if it doesn't work, the holistic/homeopath tells the pet owner that the correct dose or formulation wasn't right, so they prescribe even more, or a combination thereof, and continue to do so until the pet worsens or dies, foregoing all rational diagnostics and testing to get to the real source of the illness."
Doesn't that kind of happen sometimes with all vets? Like, something is given and it doesn't work so they say it wasn't the correct dosage so they give more of it or a combination of things and still they can't find the answer to what is wrong , and even with diagnostics and testing sometimes it won't show what' s wrong so they keep trying with combinations of antibiotics and other things until the pet " worsens and dies"? Isn't there a chance alot of times that that can happen? They can't get to the real source of the illness? Even with alot of diagnostics and testing? Like one member said here, there were so many things that could be the cause of the problem, maybe they'd never know what it was. Even with all the diagnostics and testing.
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The point is that conventional, rational vets will utilize all available testing methods and diagnose and treat based on their findings, whether that be complete physical exam, bloodwork, x-rays, ultrasound, or more advanced diagnostics. Treatment or medications are prescribed based on the individual, the extent of the condition, knowledge of the medication's known effectiveness, the patient's need for the medication and based on solid scientific evidence, research and clinical trials supporting the use of the medication or treatment. Holistic or homeopathic vets may tend to overlook or forgo additional diagnostics, and rather prescribe for an assumed condition based on a theory, or based on a "whole body" treatment notion, which oftentimes delays vital effective and proven treatment the patient may need for a serious, undiagnosed condition....or worse, prescribing modalites that have no effectiveness whatsoever.

The difference is that conventional vets will try to utilize every available diagnostic tool and prescribe based on scientific evidence, whereas holistic/homoepaths tend to keep prescribing useless remedies or those they know little about, and can rarely prove whether the modality worked soley on it's own or if there was something else that contributed to the "successful" treatment. When you find a holistic/homeopath vet who can prove their modalites should be mainstay medicine in published, peer-reviewed journals, and can replicate it in unbiased, double-blind or controlled studies, please inform conventional vets everywhere so that all diseases can be eradicated, so that all primary health conditions and their treatments can be a one-size-fits all approach for all pets.
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Re: New Here...desperate for some advice about my sick kitte

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Update on Preston....

His temp is finally back down to normal consistently. Yay! Im continuing to monitor it especially once hes done with his metacam but as of right now he is eating on his own and using the litterbox and running around playing just like normal. Thank you for your concern and your advice, I really appreciated it. I'll let you know if anything changes - Jessica
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You must be very relieved. Thanks for the update.
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