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I would cease giving the cats milk, and it should never be diluted with water.

Cease the feeding of fish. Even if it's fed every two weeks, it would be considered excessive. Again, if you are feeding a quality dry food, additional fresh/whole/raw foods are not necessary.

If you're feeding the whiskas, it is not necessary to feed them eggs, at all.

I don't know the ingredient base in the India cat food, but I wouldn't alternate the two foods, this can cause GI tract upsets, diarrhea/constipation, vomiting, etc when food is frequently switched or alternated.

Anal gland secretions or fluid are generally caused by infection or possibly as a result of an inappropriate, non-tolerated diet. If one or more of your dogs has anal gland problems, the diet should be the first thing checked to ensure it is a quality food and tolerable to the dog's system. Raw meats, bones, etc are not a sufficient diet for dogs, because it is nearly impossible to properly supplement with needed nutrients, minerals, vitamins. Cooked would be better of course, but even cooked foods cannot gaurantee needed nutrients in the dog's diet.

If the Pedigree is the only imported dog food available to you, it won't hurt to feed your dogs and may even be more approriate than a hodgepodge of uncooked/cooked meat and vegetables, but ideally, a higher quality dog food would be better.

Do you have a website link available for the India brand foods?
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It was our former vet who said to dilute milk with water. I'm always getting confused with so much contrary advice. :(

Okay, no fish nor eggs anymore.

The problem with the dogs' anal glands came when we fed the Pedigree food exclusively. That's why our vet said not to feed it so much. I didn't find a website specifically for the Indian branch, Pedigree is an international company and can be found on www.pedigree.com. But India isn't listed there.

Btw, the meat and bones we feed them are always boiled.

This article might be interesting for you to read. It mentions Pedigree.
http://www.euromonitor.com/Pet_Food_and ... s_in_India
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Ash...I've been following this out of curiousity, but dogs should never be given cooked bones. It makes them brittle and splinter, and you could have serious problems then. I believe certain kinds of raw bones are OK, but I am not sure of Traci's position on that.
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Thanks for your input, Marty. Tracy said raw bones are not good, "Cooked would be better" ....
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wonder what Davet would say about this- ???
My vet said that feeding meat to cats and dogs on a daily basis isn't good. The discussion came up when my friend's dog was diagnosed with more than 60 bladder stones. The vet said this might be due to the dog getting only meat (chicken), never anything else, and drinking too little water. (They changed his diet now, it now includes rice and veggies.)
I would think most American dogs get mostly meat...
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Ash wrote:Thanks for your input, Marty. Tracy said raw bones are not good, "Cooked would be better" ....
I was referring to meat and vegetables.

NO cooked bones. Some raw bones are equally as dangerous (such as the dog not chewing them up properly, as well as potential for breaking teeth).
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Mompaws, I think the friend may have been referring to raw meat. Since commercial food has only slowly been (partially) introduced/marketed/accepted in India, I would assume most pet owners are feeding raw meat or cooked, without proper supplementation.
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No, Traci, he was referring to cooked boneless chicken. His dog ate nothing else and ended up with 60 bladder stones.

Thanks for all your tips and advice! Did you form an opinion on the Pedigree dry food for dogs?
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Ah, ok. Well a dog's diet consisting soley of chicken could create all sorts of problems, mainly deficiencies in a variety of nutrients, minerals, vitamins, which could lead to various health conditions and progressive at that.

The Pedigree I don't consider to be a premium food for dogs, however, many dogs do fine with it, thrive on it, and have no problems with it. I'm not in the position to make a guess whether or not it was responsible for the anal gland problems, but if the condition cleared up when the Pedigree was ceased, then it would make sense not to feed it exclusively or as the sole diet.

Having spent some time reading your link and trying to find other resources similar, it would seem you're in a tough position. I can understand the economic side of things in your country, although I think the introduction of, and education of prepared/commercial pet foods could certainly stand to improve and go much faster. It is sad to me that even the vets are uneducated or opinionated and truly may have access to the information and resources we have here, but may be prohibited due to economics, lack of education, etc...it would also help greatly if there were educational resources available to pet owners so they would be in the position to demand from their vets appropriate pet food products, as well as further education in other areas. (which ultimately leads to progress). What saddened me the most I think is that cats are portrayed as a lesser-valued pet. Here in the U.S., cat-ownership is rising by the minute and are surpassing dog-ownership.

When you say that Pedigree is the only imported pet food available to you, do you mean in your specific area, or in general? Is Purina or Iams available to you? I know that these two companies strive hard to market abroad....
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Pedigree is the only one sold cheaper here now (also mentioned in that article), all the others are still expensive. There is 'Royal Pet' and, yes, Purina is available, but also expensive. Pedigree is available all over India.

As to the gland problem: she squeezed the glands in January and recommended the change in diet. So we have been feeding much less Pedigree since then and have been cooking for them daily. At first, the gland problem stopped, but over the last couple of weeks I again saw them sliding on their bottoms ... so, probably it has returned. I'm really confused! :?

Yes, the lack of education here is sometimes maddening, especially with vets. As you have read, they are often trained for poultry or cattle and then switch to dogs and cats, not knowing anything about them. Our first vet was a cattle vet, a very loving compassionate man, but often just didn't know what to do. Over the past ten years I have changed vets four times. One actually wanted to be a human doctor but failed the exams, and then switched to veterinary medicine. :roll: For him it was all about money. He wasn't able to recognize a flea allergy in one of my cats and for over a year treated him for mange, until I got on the internet and a German vet said it sounds like flea allergy. I started treating him with Frontline (which was then not available here, we had to have it sent), and all his problems ceased. Sorry, I'm ranting. But the situation here is really bad with the vets, I came to not trust any of them anymore in terms of diagnosis, especially. I now research everything on the net first, and only then contact my vet. Now for example, I called her and said "let's do a urin analysis for Noodle because the discharge has come back".

What is also horrendous are the operation theaters. Not really clean, no breathing tubes, heart monitors, x-ray machines, or anything. If any complications arise during the operation, well, bad luck.

And my husband is not much help either. He will go along with my suggestions but frowns when there are too high bills. Now, for example, when I told him that you had said cooked bones are not good, his reply was "But everybody feeds them!".

Sorry I'm ranting.
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