Tambrey, that was an awful risk for your vet to take. Anesthetized pets should NEVER be released from the clinic until fully recovered from anesthesia...so many problems could develop before full recovery that only a clinical environment can monitor and/or treat a reaction. I hope he has not done this with other owners, it is a terrible risk (not to mention unethical)
Woods lamps shouldn't be a sole diagnostic tool for ringworm...the green "glow" could also indicate other forms of fungus, not strictly ringworm, and can also give a false result. A culture is the most reliable method of diagnosing. If a culture isn't done, one could take a huge risk of treating inappropriately, and some medications, such as griseofulvicin can be deadly to cats who may be immunosuppressed unbeknownst to the owner or vet.
Traci, abandoned cat that I may have to take home....
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..........Traci
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I'm going to call the vet today and talk to her about all of this.
The spray she gave me to use on the lesion is Clotrimazol. She has no other lesions on her body.
The oral antibiotic she is taking is Flagyl, Metronidazol.
She has another check-up on Monday.
The spray she gave me to use on the lesion is Clotrimazol. She has no other lesions on her body.
The oral antibiotic she is taking is Flagyl, Metronidazol.
She has another check-up on Monday.
Sara and her 6 kitties. Clover , Saharan, Mona, Negrito, Nando and Silvestre (Vest/The Vest).
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Traci...I know it was risky...but that was....how many years ago?!...ALOT...and at the time I did not know better, either....and things have changed so much in vet medicine since then...however, this vet was one that was written about in Reader's Digest a few years back, he trained other vets from all over the world, and was a pioneer sort of vet...he was awesome and has since passed on...but he loved his furry patients and would never do anything intentionally to harm them in any way...the animals actually were anxious/excited to go and see him...the dogs would strain on their leash to get inside and see him 
He is the same one I had talked of before who tried for months to save the dog my mom brought in who had been hit by a car and compound fractured her femur...three surgeries, (one also included a spay when she was stronger and healthier), all the meds and in-patient care...and he cried as he sat on the floor holding Sheba and telling mom when the bones did not set that he would have to amputate...
He is the same one I had talked of before who tried for months to save the dog my mom brought in who had been hit by a car and compound fractured her femur...three surgeries, (one also included a spay when she was stronger and healthier), all the meds and in-patient care...and he cried as he sat on the floor holding Sheba and telling mom when the bones did not set that he would have to amputate...
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Traci,
I am pretty worried. Cleo's tests all came back negative again except the infection part. It still shows infection in her body. Her liver is all better and all the diseases and viruses came back negative. The problem is she is showing signs of that infectious feline respiratory problem that is highly contagious and has no cure. My vet says sometimes they get several negative results but still have the disease. She says she might be showing symptoms of this. She's going to come by tomorrow. She has nasal congestion and her eyes are runny. She is going to change to a different type of antibiotics.
I am worried because if she has this what will I do?
All my cats except Vest are getting their second round of late vaccines tomorrow. I worry so much about my cats getting infected. Especially Vest who can't have his vaccines until he is done with his antibiotics.
Is it true there is no cure and that it's contagious? I don't know anybody who can take her that has no cats or only positive cats. How many blood tests must I take to be absolutely sure?
I think she is a bit thinner too. I'm getting her weighed tomorrow. Her appetite is less than it was. Her stomatitis is much better though. I'm so worried. I really thought two negative blood tests would be enough to ease my mind. Quarantine is very difficult on the whole family.
I am pretty worried. Cleo's tests all came back negative again except the infection part. It still shows infection in her body. Her liver is all better and all the diseases and viruses came back negative. The problem is she is showing signs of that infectious feline respiratory problem that is highly contagious and has no cure. My vet says sometimes they get several negative results but still have the disease. She says she might be showing symptoms of this. She's going to come by tomorrow. She has nasal congestion and her eyes are runny. She is going to change to a different type of antibiotics.
I am worried because if she has this what will I do?
All my cats except Vest are getting their second round of late vaccines tomorrow. I worry so much about my cats getting infected. Especially Vest who can't have his vaccines until he is done with his antibiotics.
Is it true there is no cure and that it's contagious? I don't know anybody who can take her that has no cats or only positive cats. How many blood tests must I take to be absolutely sure?
I think she is a bit thinner too. I'm getting her weighed tomorrow. Her appetite is less than it was. Her stomatitis is much better though. I'm so worried. I really thought two negative blood tests would be enough to ease my mind. Quarantine is very difficult on the whole family.
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Traci, I was speaking about FIP. I could not remember when I posted, I am feeling a bit nervous.
Sara and her 6 kitties. Clover , Saharan, Mona, Negrito, Nando and Silvestre (Vest/The Vest).
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What are the odds that she could just have a cold? Something that is not fatal or forever contagious? Do I have any hope? 
Sara and her 6 kitties. Clover , Saharan, Mona, Negrito, Nando and Silvestre (Vest/The Vest).
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Sarah, your vet cannot accurately test for FIP without a specific ELISA or PCR analysis, and even then, it may only show a coronavirus that is NOT indicative of FIP. Since Cleo is not showing the typical signs of FIP, and *is* responding to antibiotics and other supportive meds, then FIP is highly unlikely.
My guess is that the stomatitis is the primary source of infection, there is a combination of oral infection and possibly an upper respiratory infection. If she has feline herpesvirus, this is not a fatal disease, it merely only needs to be treated and maintained (antibiotics during infection, l-lysine supplementation, healthy diet, keeping stress reduced at all times). Some cats will carry the herpes virus for life, but it is treatable and manageable. Your vet can do a swab cytology to confirm herpes virus or calicivirus or chlamydia, and she should be doing so at this point if she is unsure if the stomatitis is the only source of the infection. If your other cats have been adequately protected with vaccinations, then the likelihood they would develop the herpes virus is unlikely, however, immunosuppressed cats, unvaccinated cats or those suffering a primary health condition could be susceptible (i.e., Vestre, until your vet gets a clear handle on his condition and rules out immunological factors)
My guess is that the stomatitis is the primary source of infection, there is a combination of oral infection and possibly an upper respiratory infection. If she has feline herpesvirus, this is not a fatal disease, it merely only needs to be treated and maintained (antibiotics during infection, l-lysine supplementation, healthy diet, keeping stress reduced at all times). Some cats will carry the herpes virus for life, but it is treatable and manageable. Your vet can do a swab cytology to confirm herpes virus or calicivirus or chlamydia, and she should be doing so at this point if she is unsure if the stomatitis is the only source of the infection. If your other cats have been adequately protected with vaccinations, then the likelihood they would develop the herpes virus is unlikely, however, immunosuppressed cats, unvaccinated cats or those suffering a primary health condition could be susceptible (i.e., Vestre, until your vet gets a clear handle on his condition and rules out immunological factors)
..........Traci
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Her mouth is better but she is thinner, has a respiratory infection now and her fungus is much worse. She's shedding allot. Her eyes are also wattery.
She said her appetite is down from the congestion and to feed her tuna to get her to eat. She's on amoxiciline now with clavulanoto potasico. She said to put her in a steamy bathroom occasionally to help with the congestion.
Her two CBC's did come back negative. Her defenses are very low and I guess that's why she has the other problems now.
5 of the cats got their rabies today and are all done with the vaccines for the year. All but Vest. As soon as his last lesion goes away he can get off the antibiotics and get his yearly vaccines.
I'm really scared, frustrated, tired and confused. I wish there were positive ways of finding out what she has or does not have. The contagious part worries me. She might just have that FIV but still... I take my shoes off when entering the room, wear a big t-shirt, wash my hands raw all day but still I worry.
I can say her mouth does not have that bad odor anymore. When I first found her you could not get within 2 feet without gagging. I expected her to steadily improve with care but in some ways she is getting much worse.
It's also frustrating because tests and analysis are so different here. I'm leaving Dec. 24th. and need to get this resolved before then. It just breaks my heart to see her sick. I just want to see her feel better. Her snuffling as she eats is really horrible.
She said her appetite is down from the congestion and to feed her tuna to get her to eat. She's on amoxiciline now with clavulanoto potasico. She said to put her in a steamy bathroom occasionally to help with the congestion.
Her two CBC's did come back negative. Her defenses are very low and I guess that's why she has the other problems now.
5 of the cats got their rabies today and are all done with the vaccines for the year. All but Vest. As soon as his last lesion goes away he can get off the antibiotics and get his yearly vaccines.
I'm really scared, frustrated, tired and confused. I wish there were positive ways of finding out what she has or does not have. The contagious part worries me. She might just have that FIV but still... I take my shoes off when entering the room, wear a big t-shirt, wash my hands raw all day but still I worry.
I can say her mouth does not have that bad odor anymore. When I first found her you could not get within 2 feet without gagging. I expected her to steadily improve with care but in some ways she is getting much worse.
It's also frustrating because tests and analysis are so different here. I'm leaving Dec. 24th. and need to get this resolved before then. It just breaks my heart to see her sick. I just want to see her feel better. Her snuffling as she eats is really horrible.
Sara and her 6 kitties. Clover , Saharan, Mona, Negrito, Nando and Silvestre (Vest/The Vest).
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Sarah, there is obviously some confusion going on here.....call your vet and ask her exactly which disease processes she *has* ruled out, they should be as follows:
1) FELV or FIV
2) rhinotracheitis/calicivirus/chlamydia
So far, you've indicated that both FELV and FIV are ruled out, these can be tested one of two ways....either by a snap test that only takes 10 minutes at her clinic, or by sending an IFA to an outside lab, results in 5-7 business days.
Upper respiratory infections need to be differentiated.....have rhinotracheitis, calicivirus or chlamydia ALL been ruled out? The most effective way to do this is by a swab cytology, either looking under a slide in the clinic, or sending a sample (nasal or oral fluid) to an outside lab.
I suspect she still has oral bacterial infection that could be causing her upper respiratory infection, or in combination with it. She could also have severely diseased teeth/abcessed teeth that could be affecting her sinuses or nasal cavities, thus causing upper respiratory infection signs and symptoms. Your vet needs to treat each symptom, with the appropriate antibiotics and nutritional support. The clavamox should be targeting both, but the severity of her oral problems may warrant a new antibiotic. Ask your vet about also supplementing with l-lysine at this point in the event feline herpes virus has not been ruled out.
If she's anorexic, feed her Hill's Rx A/D, but her liver and kidney enzymes MUST be normal before feeding this diet. If she's anorexic because she can't smell her food, then warm it slightly or add a bit of warm water to her food to increase it's smell for her. The A/D is highly palatable for most cats, and will help manage her weight until these bacterial infections pass.
Keep her nose and eyes clean with a soft dampened cloth, and if she has conjunctivitis, then ask your vet for an antibiotic eye ointment that is appropriate for upper respiratory infections. Continue with the clavamox and if she doesn't show improvement within another day or two at the most, or refuses to eat altogether, or symptoms worsen, get her back to your vet promptly and retest her CBC, monitor her temp, look closely into infected tooth abcesses, etc.
1) FELV or FIV
2) rhinotracheitis/calicivirus/chlamydia
So far, you've indicated that both FELV and FIV are ruled out, these can be tested one of two ways....either by a snap test that only takes 10 minutes at her clinic, or by sending an IFA to an outside lab, results in 5-7 business days.
Upper respiratory infections need to be differentiated.....have rhinotracheitis, calicivirus or chlamydia ALL been ruled out? The most effective way to do this is by a swab cytology, either looking under a slide in the clinic, or sending a sample (nasal or oral fluid) to an outside lab.
I suspect she still has oral bacterial infection that could be causing her upper respiratory infection, or in combination with it. She could also have severely diseased teeth/abcessed teeth that could be affecting her sinuses or nasal cavities, thus causing upper respiratory infection signs and symptoms. Your vet needs to treat each symptom, with the appropriate antibiotics and nutritional support. The clavamox should be targeting both, but the severity of her oral problems may warrant a new antibiotic. Ask your vet about also supplementing with l-lysine at this point in the event feline herpes virus has not been ruled out.
If she's anorexic, feed her Hill's Rx A/D, but her liver and kidney enzymes MUST be normal before feeding this diet. If she's anorexic because she can't smell her food, then warm it slightly or add a bit of warm water to her food to increase it's smell for her. The A/D is highly palatable for most cats, and will help manage her weight until these bacterial infections pass.
Keep her nose and eyes clean with a soft dampened cloth, and if she has conjunctivitis, then ask your vet for an antibiotic eye ointment that is appropriate for upper respiratory infections. Continue with the clavamox and if she doesn't show improvement within another day or two at the most, or refuses to eat altogether, or symptoms worsen, get her back to your vet promptly and retest her CBC, monitor her temp, look closely into infected tooth abcesses, etc.
..........Traci
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Traci,
I read all your posts in this thread and wrote everything down. I am going to talk to the vet about all of it.
Cleo at some tuna last night and this morning and seems to be a doing slightly better. Not allot but slightly. She keeps scratching her one lesion which we think is fungus and she scratches it and scrapes it pretty hard and this is causing the lesion to get larger. My vet did take a sample of hair from that spot the other day to send to the lab. She took the sample in the afternoon and I did not use any topicals on it since the morning the day before. I hope it's accurate. It's pretty raw from the scratching.
I have her first CBC here with me done on 11-15. The second CBC result was given to my vet over the phone but I should get the papers hopefully today. Here is the results of the first CBC. This was done in the ER the night we found her.
(It's in Spanish but the words are pretty similar.)
Hematocrito 33%
hemoglobina 10.89 g/dl
recuento de globulos blancos 28600 /ul
red blood cells 6435000
Formula Leucocitaira relativa
Neutrofilos Inmaduros 5%
Neutrofilos Segmentados 86%
Eosinofilos 0%
Basofilos 0%
Monocitos 3%
Otros none observed
Formula Leucocitaria Absoluta
Neutrofilos Inmaduros 1430 /ul
Neutrofilos Segmentados 24596 /ul
Eosinofilos 0/ul
Basofilos 0/ul
Linfocitos 858 /ul
Monocitos 858 /ul
Indice Reticulocitario .........
Cuadro red Normocromico
Conclusion:
Marcada (marked) Neutrofilia with desvio to the right. Linfopenia and Monocitosis.
Urea
Results: 39 mg/dl. V Normal until 60
Creatinina
Results: 0.83/dl V. Normal: until 1.60
GPT
Result: 426 UI/l V. Normal until 25
Serologia for Virus of the Leucemia feline
Method: Elisa
Results: Negative
Serologia for feline inmunodeficiencia virus
Method: Elisa
Results: negative
Serologia for feline peritonitis infecion
Method: Elisa
Results: Negative
From what I was told about the recent CBC taken the other day her liver was okay now, everything was negative but her blood showed that she still has infection.
I read all your posts in this thread and wrote everything down. I am going to talk to the vet about all of it.
Cleo at some tuna last night and this morning and seems to be a doing slightly better. Not allot but slightly. She keeps scratching her one lesion which we think is fungus and she scratches it and scrapes it pretty hard and this is causing the lesion to get larger. My vet did take a sample of hair from that spot the other day to send to the lab. She took the sample in the afternoon and I did not use any topicals on it since the morning the day before. I hope it's accurate. It's pretty raw from the scratching.
I have her first CBC here with me done on 11-15. The second CBC result was given to my vet over the phone but I should get the papers hopefully today. Here is the results of the first CBC. This was done in the ER the night we found her.
(It's in Spanish but the words are pretty similar.)
Hematocrito 33%
hemoglobina 10.89 g/dl
recuento de globulos blancos 28600 /ul
red blood cells 6435000
Formula Leucocitaira relativa
Neutrofilos Inmaduros 5%
Neutrofilos Segmentados 86%
Eosinofilos 0%
Basofilos 0%
Monocitos 3%
Otros none observed
Formula Leucocitaria Absoluta
Neutrofilos Inmaduros 1430 /ul
Neutrofilos Segmentados 24596 /ul
Eosinofilos 0/ul
Basofilos 0/ul
Linfocitos 858 /ul
Monocitos 858 /ul
Indice Reticulocitario .........
Cuadro red Normocromico
Conclusion:
Marcada (marked) Neutrofilia with desvio to the right. Linfopenia and Monocitosis.
Urea
Results: 39 mg/dl. V Normal until 60
Creatinina
Results: 0.83/dl V. Normal: until 1.60
GPT
Result: 426 UI/l V. Normal until 25
Serologia for Virus of the Leucemia feline
Method: Elisa
Results: Negative
Serologia for feline inmunodeficiencia virus
Method: Elisa
Results: negative
Serologia for feline peritonitis infecion
Method: Elisa
Results: Negative
From what I was told about the recent CBC taken the other day her liver was okay now, everything was negative but her blood showed that she still has infection.
Sara and her 6 kitties. Clover , Saharan, Mona, Negrito, Nando and Silvestre (Vest/The Vest).