Pebbles - help needed
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oconnorjoy
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Pebbles - help needed
Pebbles was sleeping on the bed with me last night and woke me up asking to get down....(she's too little to jump) I put her on the floor ...when I noticed she wasn't getting up I turned the light on and saw that she was on her back with her tongue hanging out of the side of her mouth and her front paw was up against her boday (posturing). I could see by her eyes that she was fully concious. She seemed totally paralized. I immediately called our vet's emergency line and wrapped Pebbles in a blanket. In about five minutes she began wimpering and started to move again....within ten minutes you would never know that anything had happened...she was chewing her bone and chasing Bamm Bamm away from it. My vet called back at this time and we decided that since she was alert and moving fine she will see her first thing in the morning. Any advice would be much appreciated....I am so worried.
Re: Pebbles - help needed
two questions..is pebbles a poodle and if so how old and if not how old again...it sounds like a seizure which may or may not ever happen again, your visti tomorrow may enlighten you or it may not tell a thing..if it is a seizure then, with my patients,i would wai untiill the come more frequently that 4 to six weeks apart then they would go on medication...here is something that you might print out and keep in mind, also if you havbe a video camera would be good to video the next one if another occurs...but does sound like a seizer...after she is checked ywould you post the restults, please...
this may go counter to your vets advice and if so---follow his::(hers)
Seizures::
http://www.ivis.org/special_books/Braun ... m.asp?LA=1
SEIZURE FIRST AID
Obviously the first thing to do is call your vet or an emergency clinic. (It is a good idea to keep an emergency number on your refrigerator regardless of your dog's health ... you never know when you may need it.)
Don't be surprised if your vet says to wait about 10 minutes and then call back if the seizure is still in progress. The reason for this is that most seizures will be over within approximately 10 minutes.
In the meantime, throw a heavy blanket over the patient and, if possible, hold him in a position to avoid self-inflicted damage. Do not try to kiss or hug the dog; there is a chance the dog may snap and bite, especially children. Dogs do not do this intentionally.
You may push gently on the eyeballs (on the lids, of course) to help stimulate the vagus nerve,possibly slowing the seizure. Start this immediately that you suspect a seizure, ie facial twitching, snapping at imaginary flies..apply this pressure for 10 to 60 seconds and it may be necessary to repeat it every 5 or 10 minutes…
Above all, don't panic because a great percentage of dogs will pull out of a seizure and be none the worse for wear.
For dogs that are seizure-prone, try to avoid stimulation such as flashing television pictures, flashing lights, excessive and strange noises (such as sirens or kids' toys). You can't avoid thunder,but you can take the dog into a closet or any place where you can administer TLC.
During a storm, create happy distractions by playing soft music, adopting a happy tone of voice during stressful situations, closing the curtains, and turning on lights to minimize the effects of lightning.
If a dog is seizure-prone, avoid sudden arousal from a deep sleep or too much excitement.
Above all, assuming the seizure passes, keep a diary as to how often the seizures occur and the motions and movements the dog makes.
It should never be necessary to put a block in a dog's mouth during a seizure but if you feel you have to do it, use a rolled-up cloth because the dog can chomp so hard he could break a tooth or even his jaw. You should not have to hold a dog so tight as to break a bone. Use a heavy blanket or pillows to hold him down.
Finally, once out of the seizure, it may take the dog anywhere from five minutes to one hour to completely recover as he has hallucinated (it is thought) and expended a lot of energy.
STAY CALM BECAUSE YOUR DOG CAN'T.
this may go counter to your vets advice and if so---follow his::(hers)
Seizures::
http://www.ivis.org/special_books/Braun ... m.asp?LA=1
SEIZURE FIRST AID
Obviously the first thing to do is call your vet or an emergency clinic. (It is a good idea to keep an emergency number on your refrigerator regardless of your dog's health ... you never know when you may need it.)
Don't be surprised if your vet says to wait about 10 minutes and then call back if the seizure is still in progress. The reason for this is that most seizures will be over within approximately 10 minutes.
In the meantime, throw a heavy blanket over the patient and, if possible, hold him in a position to avoid self-inflicted damage. Do not try to kiss or hug the dog; there is a chance the dog may snap and bite, especially children. Dogs do not do this intentionally.
You may push gently on the eyeballs (on the lids, of course) to help stimulate the vagus nerve,possibly slowing the seizure. Start this immediately that you suspect a seizure, ie facial twitching, snapping at imaginary flies..apply this pressure for 10 to 60 seconds and it may be necessary to repeat it every 5 or 10 minutes…
Above all, don't panic because a great percentage of dogs will pull out of a seizure and be none the worse for wear.
For dogs that are seizure-prone, try to avoid stimulation such as flashing television pictures, flashing lights, excessive and strange noises (such as sirens or kids' toys). You can't avoid thunder,but you can take the dog into a closet or any place where you can administer TLC.
During a storm, create happy distractions by playing soft music, adopting a happy tone of voice during stressful situations, closing the curtains, and turning on lights to minimize the effects of lightning.
If a dog is seizure-prone, avoid sudden arousal from a deep sleep or too much excitement.
Above all, assuming the seizure passes, keep a diary as to how often the seizures occur and the motions and movements the dog makes.
It should never be necessary to put a block in a dog's mouth during a seizure but if you feel you have to do it, use a rolled-up cloth because the dog can chomp so hard he could break a tooth or even his jaw. You should not have to hold a dog so tight as to break a bone. Use a heavy blanket or pillows to hold him down.
Finally, once out of the seizure, it may take the dog anywhere from five minutes to one hour to completely recover as he has hallucinated (it is thought) and expended a lot of energy.
STAY CALM BECAUSE YOUR DOG CAN'T.
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oconnorjoy
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Re: Pebbles - help needed
Davet...Pebbles is a Pom. She is almost 8 mths old...weighs 5lbs 4oz. My vet thinks it was a seizure. I'm to watch her carefully and bring her in if this happens again. I have dealth with seizures in people but have never seen one like this...she didn't appear to convulse. (Maybe she did before I turned on the light) She seemd to be paralyzed??? She is doing fine today...so signs of any problems.
Re: Pebbles - help needed
Joy, pets can experience seizures differently, each case is different. I do agree with your vet and Davet, watch her carefully for any other signs of seizure activity and notify your vet at once if it happens again or any other similar signs present themselves.
On another note, and I'm sure unrelated, if this happens again and your vet rules out seizure activity, the first thing I would consider is testing for liver shunting....especially if you ever notice her losing weight, or poor development, weakness or strange gait, smaller than normal stature, anorexia or vomiting. Just something to keep in mind, I certainly don't want to scare you (it probably is not significant)
On another note, and I'm sure unrelated, if this happens again and your vet rules out seizure activity, the first thing I would consider is testing for liver shunting....especially if you ever notice her losing weight, or poor development, weakness or strange gait, smaller than normal stature, anorexia or vomiting. Just something to keep in mind, I certainly don't want to scare you (it probably is not significant)
..........Traci