I did not know which forum to put this on, I am so upset- MSNBC had an article or TV this morning about a bill to allow hunters to kill cats at will.
They are voting today, if it passes anyone witha hunting licences will be able to kill cats that do not have a collar on, they showed the meeting this morning and so many people were crying, so did I.
I know this may not be related to this forum but I am so mad and sad about it I had to post it, it is also on the web site.
Thank You for letting me vent.
Mycahs mom
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Oh, I so understand how you feel! Here in India they poison street dogs (the municipal government, although it's always hushed up). They put meat with strichnin out in the night ... It's such a horrible death. I often take care of street dogs, fed them and get medical attention if they need. Once one of my favourites was poisoned, someone called me, I just got there in time, called a vet, and by the grace of god we pulled her through. But many dozens of others died that night. It happens about once a year. Then there is a big uproar because sometimes by mistake also pet dogs find that meat and die, and then they stop for a while with that inhuman nonsense. I'm always scared when I go to see 'my' street dogs ... will they still be there today?
The irony is that the Blue Cross does what it can to spay street dogs, because there really is problem here with too many dogs, and still they go out and kill them!
Sorry, needed to vent that too!
Shooting cats! And why? Are there too many or what is their reasoning?
In Australia they do that too. They have too many wild cats there. The cats apparently diminish the number of other typical Australian small mammals. So they shoot the cats.
The irony is that the Blue Cross does what it can to spay street dogs, because there really is problem here with too many dogs, and still they go out and kill them!
Sorry, needed to vent that too!
Shooting cats! And why? Are there too many or what is their reasoning?
In Australia they do that too. They have too many wild cats there. The cats apparently diminish the number of other typical Australian small mammals. So they shoot the cats.
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This is just outrageous...I know too many good ol boys who would give anything to be able to kill cats legally...people will lose their pets. I bet you there would be a HUGE outrage in the US if they made it legal to kill dogs, don't you think? Makes me sick. I understand the problem with feral colonies, but there are better and proven ways to handle it than letting any good ol goober get his gun out and go cat hunting. They say it will not be open season, but how will the stop it? Anyway, I'll wait to see how the vote turns out...one more reason to keep your cats INDOORS only I suppose.
Tina B and "what a crew!"
How we behave towards cats here below determines our status in heaven ~Robert A. Heinlein
How we behave towards cats here below determines our status in heaven ~Robert A. Heinlein
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I had posted a link to the original story a while back...it makes me sooooo mad...I do hope the bill FAILS....I pray it has...
Here is a link to the latest story
the link did not work, so here is the story
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascit ... 377612.htm
Posted on Tue, Apr. 12, 2005
Proposal to kill feral cats in Wisconsin wins approval
BY JOHN MCCORMICK
Chicago Tribune
CHICAGO - (KRT) - The fate of feral cats remained uncertain Tuesday in Wisconsin, where tallies show a narrow majority of those who attended statewide conservation hearings back the idea of allowing hunters, farmers and others to shoot stray cats without collars as a way to control their numbers.
The proposal passed 6,830 to 5,201 in an advisory vote taken in each of the state's 72 counties Monday evening, with the measure generally finding support in rural areas and opposition in urban ones, according to the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.
In La Crosse County, where a firefighter who made the proposal later received death threats, it passed 146 to 75. DNR officials said more than 13,000 people attended the hearings statewide, more than twice as many as in a typical year.
The vote and related hearings generated heated emotions, including some cat lovers who wore fake ears and whiskers and carried photos of their pets. The measure asked whether the wild cats, estimated at a million-plus in Wisconsin, should be classified as an unprotected species.
Still, legally shooting a feral cat remains a long way off, with approval also needed by the state Conservation Congress, state Natural Resources Board and Wisconsin lawmakers, challenging political hurdles that likely would take a year or more.
"They have won the day, but they haven't won the final fight," said Ted O'Donnell, a Madison pet store owner who has helped lead opposition to the proposal. "We will keep fighting it at every step of the way."
Wisconsin lawmakers have generally steered clear of the issue. Sen. Scott Fitzgerald, co-chairman of the Legislature's powerful Joint Finance Committee, told The Associated Press Tuesday that he will "work against any proposed legislation to legalize the shooting of feral cats."
Representatives from the Wisconsin Humane Society, which opposes the proposal, have said the West Nile virus and loss of habitat to development are far greater threats to birds than feral cats. The group supports trapping the cats, neutering them and returning them to the wild as one way to control their population.
"We're obviously disappointed," said Victoria Wellens, the group's executive director. "We believe that shooting cats is an inhumane response to a problem we all agree needs to be addressed."
A feral cat is typically defined as one with no identification collar that fails to show friendly behavior. Wildlife officials say studies suggest the felines kill millions of songbirds in Wisconsin each year. If shooting the cats is eventually approved, a small-game license might be needed to kill them, depending on whether policy-makers deemed them wild animals or a public nuisance.
Steve Oestreicher, chairman of the state's Conservation Congress, said the next step comes on May 13, when the 360 delegates expected to attend the group's annual meeting will vote on the proposal. He said the advisory group to the state Department of Natural Resources typically follows the vote taken at the county hearings.
"If the statewide vote is upheld (by the congress), then we would recommend that the Wisconsin DNR and the Legislature seek further input on it," Oestreicher said.
Not since a highly emotional debate in 1999 and 2000 over the creation of a hunting season for mourning doves has there been so much controversy over the killing animals in Wisconsin, a place where outdoor traditions run deep. Horrified feline lovers had attempted to mobilize cat owners to attend the annual conservation hearings, gatherings that have traditionally been dominated by hunters and outdoor enthusiasts.
Although shooting a cat in Wisconsin is technically illegal, hunters and farmers routinely kill them in rural areas. Some view it as a way to protect game birds and other small animals that the cats hunt and kill.
Although the DNR has not studied the issue, a scientific basis often cited in the debate comes from a University of Wisconsin professor who estimated in 1996 that there were 1.4 million free-range cats in the state, responsible for at least 7.8 million annual bird deaths.
"There is a need for more objective information about cats," said Wellens of the Wisconsin Humane Society.
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Wisconsin hunters are the worst (Minnesota is a close second)....they annually make a trip to MY state to hunt every year. If they are so concerned about rodents, they need an education in wildlife management. If songbird losses are a concern, they need to start challenging pet owners to keep their cats indoors, fine them for not, and as for game birds, if the numbers are decreasing, it's the blasted hunters that are responsible. (cats will favor small birds, mice, etc over a game bird any day). They also need an education in TNR programs and get off their lazy duffs and do something about it.
This bill should never pass. Once the humane organizations get ahold of them, they will wish they had never started such an asinine movement.
This bill should never pass. Once the humane organizations get ahold of them, they will wish they had never started such an asinine movement.
..........Traci
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Update: This cat-hunting proposal was featured on ABC Evening News either last night or the night before. Goodo! As one of the reporters commented, the law will never pass. To which I add: especially now that it has gone national and shown these hunter jerks up as the minority they are... So in this instance anyway, cyberspace and media zeroing in on a story is a very good thing!
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that is good to know