BeadyWhite
Re: BeadyWhite
One more thing. You say "she would never adjust to not being in her favorite grass and sunshine and trees". I thought just that about Noodle, and when we moved last year from the small house with garden to this 4th floor appartment I thought she would be the biggest problem of my four animals (two cats, two dogs), as she is the youngest of them all and has always been a very good hunter. To my surprise she settled down real quickly! For a week she spent most of her waking hours to run from one window to another, day and night, but then quite suddenly stopped that and has been content ever since. She NEVER asks to go out (meowing at the door or anything) and she seems happy, playing with Tommy (my other cat) and us. Tommy, however, who has always been the 'baby' and never learned hunting (he was too ill when little and missed mommie's lessons) and who always needs a lot of attention and is much more attached to us, he is now the one who will get into bouts of meowing at the door and wanting to at least look out. Just the other way round than I had thought. So, don't assume too much about BeadyWhite, she might well surprise you!
Re: BeadyWhite
Hi Nan,
All I was trying to make you realize in telling you about the 24 hour care is just how deadly this thing can be even with the best care so that you would understand that the BEST thing YOU could do in YOUR situation, is to never, ever allow another litter to be born to Beadywhite. I realize that you do not have the same pet care there that I do, especially for cats. Even here in the US, most people do not have those types of facilities so close to them as I do, and I'd say many would not be willing to utilize them if they did. I am very lucky. That said, you need to do what YOU can, and that is to stop further litters from ever being born, instead of hoping that vaccinating Beadywhite will keep the kittens from getting panleuk. As soon as they are weaned, they will be susceptible. As I said before, most likely she is immune anyway, and would afford only temporary immunity already. We realize that you are in a totally different situation, and I'm thankful that there are people like you out there who are taking care of the cats that need a home.
Good luck,
kk
All I was trying to make you realize in telling you about the 24 hour care is just how deadly this thing can be even with the best care so that you would understand that the BEST thing YOU could do in YOUR situation, is to never, ever allow another litter to be born to Beadywhite. I realize that you do not have the same pet care there that I do, especially for cats. Even here in the US, most people do not have those types of facilities so close to them as I do, and I'd say many would not be willing to utilize them if they did. I am very lucky. That said, you need to do what YOU can, and that is to stop further litters from ever being born, instead of hoping that vaccinating Beadywhite will keep the kittens from getting panleuk. As soon as they are weaned, they will be susceptible. As I said before, most likely she is immune anyway, and would afford only temporary immunity already. We realize that you are in a totally different situation, and I'm thankful that there are people like you out there who are taking care of the cats that need a home.
Good luck,
kk
Re: BeadyWhite
Nan, did you actually take the time to read all the links provided for you here? It's not just a matter of "trying to prevent viruses to any future kittens", it is a matter of preventing serious and fatal diseases in BeadyWhite....the spay/neuter link I gave you clearly explains the dangers of not spaying your cat....I must stress to you again, mammary cancer or any other type of cancer is NOT a disease you want to put your cat through, it can be prevented by simply getting her spayed. Perhaps put more simply, you are shortening her lifespan by not getting her spayed and allowing her outdoors.
The indoor living link I gave you also clearly explains why cats should NOT be outdoors, the hazards are just too numerous. You've already lost several kittens due to an infectious disease, that probably being distemper....how can you morally put BeadyWhite or any other kittens at risk for this fatal disease, knowing your vets don't even recognize it or know how to treat it? It is also not only distemper you need to worry about, but there are also other feline diseases, plus rabies, that can be easily transmitted between cats.
A pregnant female cat, whether vaccinated or not, can still harbor any of the viruses and pass it on to her unborn kittens either in vitro, or shortly after birth, because maternal immunity protection is lost after around 4-12 weeks, and the kittens would be at risk for these diseases because they do not have immunity protection..you cannot safely vaccinate kittens until they are at least 12 weeks of age, and they require booster shots, so during their young development, the vaccinations may not afford them protection until they are at least 5 months of age or longer. Do you see the extreme time-frame in which a deadly virus could be fatal to a new litter of kittens? If those kittens are allowed outdoors, then they will infect other animals, and so on and so on, this is how an epidemic occurs. It is the responsibility of HUMANS to be responsible and vaccinate their animals and spay/neuter them to prevent these fatalities. Remember, the virus lives in an indoor environment for several months to a year, and you need to decontaminate your home thoroughly. The virus lives in an outdoor environment for years, in moist areas, on surfaces, in the ground, etc.
Put simply, if you continue to allow BeadyWhite outdoors, and not spay her, regardless if she is vaccinated or not, she is at risk for any number of infectious diseases that can be passed on to her kittens and her too if you don't have her current on her vaccinations. Beyond infectious diseases, there are numerous outdoor hazards explained in the link that you really don't want to put BeadyWhite at risk for. The link also explains how relatively simple it is to acclimate a kitty indoors, all you have to do is provide her a safe, interesting and stimulating environment.
Do not equate your human emotions with her desire to be outdoors. An indoor cat is healthier and can adjust and be happy indoors.
An indoor cat is a healthy cat. FACT: The average lifespan for an outdoor cat is 2.5 years. The average lifespan for an INDOOR cat is 12 years or more.
The indoor living link I gave you also clearly explains why cats should NOT be outdoors, the hazards are just too numerous. You've already lost several kittens due to an infectious disease, that probably being distemper....how can you morally put BeadyWhite or any other kittens at risk for this fatal disease, knowing your vets don't even recognize it or know how to treat it? It is also not only distemper you need to worry about, but there are also other feline diseases, plus rabies, that can be easily transmitted between cats.
A pregnant female cat, whether vaccinated or not, can still harbor any of the viruses and pass it on to her unborn kittens either in vitro, or shortly after birth, because maternal immunity protection is lost after around 4-12 weeks, and the kittens would be at risk for these diseases because they do not have immunity protection..you cannot safely vaccinate kittens until they are at least 12 weeks of age, and they require booster shots, so during their young development, the vaccinations may not afford them protection until they are at least 5 months of age or longer. Do you see the extreme time-frame in which a deadly virus could be fatal to a new litter of kittens? If those kittens are allowed outdoors, then they will infect other animals, and so on and so on, this is how an epidemic occurs. It is the responsibility of HUMANS to be responsible and vaccinate their animals and spay/neuter them to prevent these fatalities. Remember, the virus lives in an indoor environment for several months to a year, and you need to decontaminate your home thoroughly. The virus lives in an outdoor environment for years, in moist areas, on surfaces, in the ground, etc.
Put simply, if you continue to allow BeadyWhite outdoors, and not spay her, regardless if she is vaccinated or not, she is at risk for any number of infectious diseases that can be passed on to her kittens and her too if you don't have her current on her vaccinations. Beyond infectious diseases, there are numerous outdoor hazards explained in the link that you really don't want to put BeadyWhite at risk for. The link also explains how relatively simple it is to acclimate a kitty indoors, all you have to do is provide her a safe, interesting and stimulating environment.
Do not equate your human emotions with her desire to be outdoors. An indoor cat is healthier and can adjust and be happy indoors.
An indoor cat is a healthy cat. FACT: The average lifespan for an outdoor cat is 2.5 years. The average lifespan for an INDOOR cat is 12 years or more.
..........Traci
Re: BeadyWhite
Hi everybody (and especially Traci),
Thanks for all the responses about BeadyWhite and I hope I can do something for her. I just hope it is not too late already because she hasn't been coming home even to eat for the past three days and was spotted in the company of her boyfriend, Socks (he belongs to a family that lives down the road).
I just cannot go through another batch of kittens dying on us and I still hear the last kitten's (who used to be the voluble type) desperate cries for help everytime I go to bed at night and feel personally responsible for his horrible death.
Hoping for the best for BeadyWhite.
Thanks for all the responses about BeadyWhite and I hope I can do something for her. I just hope it is not too late already because she hasn't been coming home even to eat for the past three days and was spotted in the company of her boyfriend, Socks (he belongs to a family that lives down the road).
I just cannot go through another batch of kittens dying on us and I still hear the last kitten's (who used to be the voluble type) desperate cries for help everytime I go to bed at night and feel personally responsible for his horrible death.
Hoping for the best for BeadyWhite.
Re: BeadyWhite
Nan...it is not too late to catch her and get her spayed...it would be the kindest thing to do for her...and for yourself...I too know what it is like to watch a baby kitten die and feel helpless to do anything for it...many of us here have ben in that situation and it is never pleasant...